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    Topic:   Stories  

    This topic contains 7 replies, has 2 voices, and was last updated by kiwi kiwi 1 year, 7 months ago.

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    • #5449
      macalter
      macalter
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      I’m not overly stressed out about my stories not appearing but am curious if they’re somewhere before I re-create what I remember.

      for the longest time, I had Stories disabled from menu and tab. Just happened to a record that has reminder of a story so enabled. Nothing appears, assuming that the list and contents would show.

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      #5450
      kiwi
      kiwi
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      If the module is enabled it will display all existing stories in Administration > Tools > Stories.

      I don’t think it’s possible for them to exist in the database and NOT show there, but to be certain look in the DB, table xx_module_settings xx_block_settings. Search for items with ‘setting name’ = ‘story_body’

      Nigel

      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

      #5451
      macalter
      macalter
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      My search didn’t show such file so whatever happened, they’re probably gone. I should have done copy backup at some point but never did. Will create a story or two and re-look for such a file. I know I’ve had reincarnations of my A-D site and different DB names. (Yeah, not a good idea!). They were all deleted and I know what I’m currently using so start over.

      No worry. I think I made notation on records that had stories so may find some again.

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      #5452
      kiwi
      kiwi
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      My search didn’t show such file …

      Sorry – I gave you the wrong table name (not a ‘file’ though). I’ve just corrected my previous message.

      I should have done copy backup at some point but never did.

      I’m sure you’re not alone 🙁

      Many people think to backup their files, but in truth that’s the least important. Unless you have code-hacks you need to keep it’s always easy to just replace the software with a fresh copy. It’s not even important to backup a GEDCOM file, and totally pointless if you don’t re-export it on a regular basis. I actually encourage clients to never even keep a copy of that on the server. It’s an unnecessary risk.

      What you MUST backup regularly is your database. You should be able to run a backup or export of that from within PhpMyAdmin / cPanel or whatever DB tool your web host supply in moments. I do mine at least once per month, but if I’m busy updating then far more frequently. I’ve got a folder of DB backups locally (and in the cloud) going back nearly ten years!

      You should also check if your web host does regular backups of your site. They should, and they should be able to recover them easily.

      There’s a simple “Murphy’s law” for backups:
      “If you always do backups you will never need them. If you never do one, you will always need it!”

      Nigel

      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

      #5453
      macalter
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      I backup via my web host monthly (they do the backup, I download the files). It includes all databases and email accounts. I do kiwitrees tables and email. I’ve narrowed down my SQL databases to essentials so if I have the room on my plan (GBs), I try to do backup twice month. I have 30 days to recover loss, in fact I checked trash for the database I deleted (stories) but it was too long ago.

      I do export my GEDCOMs locally. From day 1 (PGV) I’ve been doing that.

      I know Murphy well!

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      #5454
      kiwi
      kiwi
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      I do export my GEDCOMs locally. From day 1 (PGV) I’ve been doing that.

      As managing within your GB limits is clearly a vital consideration I would definitely recommend you stop wasting time and space on this exercise. If you’ve got a safe backup of your database, then you have all your GEDCOM data AND it’s guaranteed to be up-to-date; plus it includes all the data not part of GEDCOM (Stories, FAQs, module contents and settings, user details, logs, change history, and much more …….)

      If you ever need a GEDCOM file, even without internet access you could quickly create a local copy of kiwitrees using Xampp/Wampp/Ampp or similar, import your backup database, and export a GEDCOM file from it.

      By the way, the only other important part of the system that the DB backup AND GEDCOM don’t do is media. You do need to keep a separate backup of all media files, especially if other users can upload media to your site as you won’t have them locally yourself.

      (ps – I’ve extended this conversation not specifically targeted at you but to give some general thoughts to any one else who might read these pages).

      Nigel

      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

      #5455
      macalter
      macalter
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      I found a local backup of my previous SQL file from Feb 2015. Did search in text editor for ‘setting name’ = ‘story_body’ and didn’t find. I tried one other that may have been webtrees and didn’t see that line. (My recollection is the stories started in webtrees. Maybe I never brought them over. Oh well. I see your plans include CKEditor, not the nicest to play with. So, maybe I’ll try again then, whenever that is 🙂

      Amusing notation in my history log: 2012 Jan 12 >testing has started to move over to webtrees, hopefully making it more user-friendly (its application is an offshoot of PGV).
      And if I was to add a postscript 2015 that as we reach Jan 2016, am very content with kiwitrees and it is user-friendly.

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      #5456
      kiwi
      kiwi
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      (My recollection is the stories started in webtrees. Maybe I never brought them over.

      No, I created the stories module for PGV originally, but I couldn’t now guarantee that it originally used the database settings 🙁

      Oh well. I see your plans include CKEditor, not the nicest to play with.

      Not sure what that means. CKEditor has been the WYSIWYG editor for PGV, webtrees, and kiwitrees for ever.Used in HTML blocks, FAQs, all over the system.

      I assume you are referring to the medium term Road Map[\url] entry that says “CKEditor – Find simpler way to include media links and colorbox code.”?

      That is just an enhancement to try and improve the addition of image links.

      And if I was to add a postscript 2015 that as we reach Jan 2016, am very content with kiwitrees and it is user-friendly.

      Thanks 🙂 🙂

      Nigel

      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

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