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    Topic:   Sources  

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    • #5638
      macalter
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      I just created a family tree in same domain as my AD family. The default John Doe is I1. Assume the next record will be A2 (I changed). However, what I noticed is Sources didn’t start at S1. It’s S368 for some reason. Where are the other 367 sources? Not part of my AD family I hope.

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      #5639
      kiwi
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      Not sure what “Not part of my AD family I hope.” means.

      The number sequencing is site-wide, not tree specific. This is necessary to allow tree merging, for which records must all be unique to the site, not just to a single tree.

      Nigel
      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
      #5640
      macalter
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      I actually wanted to use the same sources but can’t access. These records maybe merged eventually so would save re-creating. By your reply then, the next new Source would be where the AD tree leaves off. That’s okay but what about ones that are the same?

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      #5641
      kiwi
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      That’s right. The sources are created on a “per tree” basis, so you can’t use the same one across multiple trees.

      But the numbering is kept unique as without it the so-called “merge trees” feature can’t work.

      The issue is one of language. (see https://kiwitrees.net/faqs/ for more details). There is no real ability to merge trees. The tool is actually and deliberately (in kiwitrees) called “Append trees” for that reason, but everyone insists on using the incorrect term “merge”. Even me it appears. I must avoid doing that.

      So if you want to “merge” trees you use the “append trees” option which simply adds one tree onto the end of another (hence the need for all records having uniques IDs). Then you need to identify the duplicates, be they individuals, families, sources, repositories, media, or notes and use the “Merge records” tool to merge them one at a time.

      For further clarification, the need for unique ID’s does apply to individuals in the same way as sources, So to answer your earlier comment “Assume the next record will be A2 (I changed)“, no it probably won’t. It’s more likely to be something like A123456, depending on the next lowest unused(not just next highest) ID on your site.
      Ideally “John Doe” would be created in the same way, but for simplicity it is hard-coded to use only I1. I might look at the possibility of improving that one day, but as mentioned often, these IDs are machine-intelligible only so what they look like for humans should be irrelevant.

      Nigel
      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
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