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    Topic:   Missing data  

    This topic contains 2 replies, has 2 voices, and was last updated by  jacoline 3 months, 2 weeks ago.

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    • #9956

      jacoline
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      456 posts

      I just love the “missing data” tool.

      But I do have alot of “stillborn” and those appears as missing as baptised. Can the stilborn be ignored in this tool?

      Regards,
      Jamie Jaconelli

      admin and owner of:
      www.jaconelli.dk/webtrees, www.jaconelli.dk/history, www.familien-johnsen.dk(submenu) and danish support at www.host-siden.dk/sandbox and facebook

      #9957
      kiwi
      kiwi
      Keymaster

      1636 posts

      That’s a nice question. Similar to others that have been asked, though usually in relation to the “sanity check” tool or batch updates, for things like:
      “update married names” – “Can I exclude this list of females who should not have their names changed?”
      “Baptised after a certain age” – “Can I exclude this person because they were definitely baptised at age 63?”

      The problem with all of them is they add considerably to the complexity of the query, and for all except the smallest trees make the tools often unusable. So I am very reluctant to help – even though I fully understand the request. I have asked myself similar questions 🙂

      In the case of stillborn births, the difficulty is that the “missing data” query , to be efficient, is designed to only look at BAP/CHR events. So to look at other possible events (for every person) would be inefficient.
      Also, there is more than one way, in the GEDCOM specification, to describe a still birth:
      1:
      1 DEAT
      2 DATE 13 MAY 1984
      2 AGE STILLBORN
      2:
      1 BIRT
      2 TYPE STILLBORN
      Then there are multiple references to “STILLBORN” in the many LDS tags; and of course some people will put it in a NOTE or perhaps even a SOURCE.

      How do you record it?

      I even wondered if we could just look for the word “stillborn” anywhere in an individual’s record – but that might include a note for a living child to explain that their twin brother or sister was “stillborn”!

      So I have to say, sadly, I can’t see a practical solution.

      Also – I know most religions do not baptise stillborns – but is that true for all religions? I do not know for sure.

      Nigel
      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
      #9958

      jacoline
      Participant

      456 posts

      I use ex. 2

      I have no idea about the BAP at stillborn. I have never seen it in danish churchbooks

      It is just annoying having these . I made a CHR record for those who had a name – with a note about they prolly were CHR at home and dead before the confirmation in church. But these I can not do anything about 🙁

      Regards,
      Jamie Jaconelli

      admin and owner of:
      www.jaconelli.dk/webtrees, www.jaconelli.dk/history, www.familien-johnsen.dk(submenu) and danish support at www.host-siden.dk/sandbox and facebook

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