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    Topic:   GEDCOM tag  

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    • #7927
      macalter
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      Every once-in-awhile, I like looking through the GEDCOM tags to see what exists. Came across this one but not quite sure how it’s used properly. I added it to my list to try, but not sure what I would record:

      ANCI {ANCES_INTEREST} Indicates an interest in additional research for ancestors of this individual. (See also DESI)

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      #7928
      kiwi
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      Not one I’ve ever used either. But looking at the GEDCOM spec in more detail, as well as that description it has the structure (as part of the Individual Record) as:

      1 ANCI @@

      That means it would appear as perhaps
      1 ANCI @I12345@

      “SUBM is the “submitter”, which we also do not use exactly as described in GEDCOM We only use one SUBM, for you, as the submitter of your GEDCOM data. But it can be extended to show the submitter of any part (individual etc) of your data. Most useful when import a GEDCOM file from someone else and want to keep their data as well as your own rather than completely merge everything. I have seen one request to add this to webtrees, but AFAIK it has never been done there, and certainly I haven’t allowed for it to be used like that in kiwitrees.

      So then you have multiple SUBM’s each with a Ixxx number. You can then use ANCI / DESI to indicate that a certain submitter has an interest in this individual record – so you can notify them if you find or change the data one day.

      I can’t imagine ,many people going to that trouble, and suspect there are better ways to do it.

      I suppose you could use it with a user’s XREF (assuming they exist as a person in your tree) instead of an SUBM record for them as an slight twist on the correct usage.

      Nigel

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      #7929
      macalter
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      The ANCI as displayed it kiwitrees has an input field “Ancestors interest”, no method to attach a person, akin to ASSO. (The standard other tags are present such as Source, media, shared, note, associate)

      Never touched SUBM. Whatever is used by kiwitrees is what I go with.

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      #7930
      kiwi
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      no method to attach a person

      Because it’s never been set up fully, just as SUBM hasn’t.
      But try entering something like @Ixxxx@ in its field, where Ixxxx is a valid INDI reference. That works well in the AUTH sub-tag of SOUR so probably works here too.

      Nigel

      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info

      #7931
      macalter
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      That works well in the AUTH sub-tag of SOUR so probably works here too.

      Cool. I just tried ANCI and @A1953@, my XREF number (ooooo, that no-no # <LOL!> and see my name displayed. When I ran the Facts & Events report for ANCI, it showed the INDI name/details and in the Details, my name. So, doesn’t make sense (entering my XREF). Will continue exploring.

      However now that you say the XREF will work with SOUR’s AUTH, that will be helpful as many times, the author is a related person/family on file.

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