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    Topic:   Census Assistant – USA  

    This topic contains 9 replies, has 3 voices, and was last updated by kiwi kiwi 3 years, 10 months ago.

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    • #3694
      pab
      pab
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      I have been using Census Assistant for my American individuals and noticed a number of issues such as not being able to select a person for the 1830 & 1840, and 20th century details overlapping the side bar (example below). Just wondering whether these were addressed during work on 3.0.0

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      #3696
      kiwi
      kiwi
      Keymaster

      1656 posts

      No, it isn’t. I hadn’t realised it was happening , though I should have as I use the feature constantly/

      It isn’t just those census years, or even necessarily just census fact. It depends on screen width and can cause an issue with any fact. It is just more likely to present with those longer census shared notes.

      I will see if I can fix it before I release 3.0.0. It is probably worth another couple of days for this.

      Nigel
      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
      #3697
      pab
      pab
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      I find adding later USA census a daunting task so have not much done so, but I recently got a month of access to FindMyPast worldwide for £1 so thought I’d have a go. I found a work-round for the 1830/1840 but then ran into the width issue otherwise I would have alerted you earlier!
      Paul

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      #3698
      kiwi
      kiwi
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      1656 posts

      I’ve had a go at fixing this today, but unsuccessfully. I should also say it’s not the first time I’ve tried either. I did have a fix for it in my ‘simpl_grey’ theme, but that only worked because the entire theme was premised on an absolutely fixed display width. I can marginally improve the display, but any fix in this code will only generate other problems.

      So I don’t think there is an easy fix for now. Ultimately it will require a well needed re-think of the entire presentation of the individual “facts & events tab”, and in particular the way we display large census transcriptions.

      One thought I have is to change from open/close for the source / note / shared notes details to a pop-up or ‘modal’ overlay, similar to the colorbox used for images.

      The problem with the current code on that page / tab in particular is that it has grown into a very messy set of mixed div and table HTML tags, all convolutely nested inside one another. Then of course any fix needs to allow for the display of any census year, translated into any language, in any theme, using any screen size including tablets and smartphones (eventually) !!!!

      So definitely an important project for a later release I’m afraid.

      Happy to hear any ideas you or anyone else may have.

      Nigel
      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
      #3699
      kiwi
      kiwi
      Keymaster

      1656 posts

      PS – a partial / practical solution for now is to close the sidebar when viewing wide census transcriptions.

      Nigel
      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
      #3708
      pab
      pab
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      111 posts

      Thanks for looking at it Nigel and I hope it wasn’t too much of a waste of time. I’ll lay off the later US censuses for a bit – I’ve plenty of others to do!

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      #3709

      jacoline
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      466 posts

      I do not even know what all those colons contain!

      BP, FBP, MBP, YOI, EmN, VKS

      Is it important?

      Perhabs putting those in a “drop down” note mark. You know with the plus sign, you click on to open notes and read more

      Regards,
      Jamie Jaconelli

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      #3710
      pab
      pab
      Participant

      111 posts

      BP = birth place
      FBP – fathers birthplace
      MBP = mothers birthplace
      YOI = year of immigration
      EmN = unemployed?
      WKS = weeks unemployed during year

      There is a lot of information in the US censuses but some may not be useful …

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      #3711

      jacoline
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      466 posts

      thank you for sharing that 🙂

      Yes thats why I suggest it goes to a note or something! Or a discussion about which part is needed?

      My opinion:
      WKS not needed

      With MBP and FBP either the parent is inside the census and the record is noted there or it could be a note instead!

      Regards,
      Jamie Jaconelli

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      #3712
      kiwi
      kiwi
      Keymaster

      1656 posts

      The “census assistant” exists for the purpose of assisting with a transcription of census documents. The purpose of any transcription is to record EXACTLY what was on the original document, so it would be wrong to start debating adding or removing any details. Plus, I’m sure there would never be any agreement.

      If you prefer to simply add a shared note of your own preference of details you should just add an ordinary shared note without using the assistant.

      Regarding the titles of each column, when you use the assistant the full title is available if you point to the heading of each column both during data entry and on the final display. They are also available on the original document, which of course anyone doing a transcription will have in front of them.

      Nigel
      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
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