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    Topic:   Adopted child  

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    • #4513
      macalter
      macalter
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      The Royals:
      I have a family (Q1363/Q1080), they adopted wife’s niece (Q3926). The niece’s record reflects her adopted parents. However, viewing Q1363, it shows the niece as daughter, not adopted daughter. Didn’t realize this before.
      How would I know it’s not their natural child? (The marriage didn’t produce issue).

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      #4516
      kiwi
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      I can’t give you specifics as I’m not in the office, but it sound like you are missing a ” 2 PEDI adopted” entry below the xref for that child in the FAMily record. You probably have it only on the INDIvidual record; or perhaps it’s the other way round. You do need both though.

      Nigel
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      #4931
      macalter
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      I forgot to follow-up with this. Same situation in my A-D site just happened so went back to find this thread. The above give the records that are similar to current situation.

      To create the “adopted family”, I went to the Families page of the child and clicked “Link this person to an existing family as a child”. Chose the FAM and selected ADOPTED from the drop down.

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      #4932
      kiwi
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      You havnt said WHERE you want to see the answer to your question “How would I know it’s not their natural child?” so giving the right answer is hard.

      On the INDI page (Facts & Events tab) for Q3926 the side-bar shows her in two families: “Family with parents” and “Family with adoptive parents”. That seems clear enough to me, so I guess that’s not where you have a problem.

      But I’m 99% sure my answer is still as stated above. You need to add the adoption information to the family record (F1613) if you want it to appear there, and currently you haven’t done that.

      Adoptions / Fostering are always complex. We need to be able to show adoption by a couple, or by the mother or the father as individuals, then for the family as a unit as well. So there is never any way it can be fully automated. To get a totally complete display I have never found a way to avoid it being a two part process, and one of those is usually a raw GEDCOM edit. I have often thought to write an FAQ about it, but the complexity has put me off! Hoping someone else will volunteer one day, and perhaps through that process identify a better way.

      So, I think the solution for your problem, IF I have understood it correctly, is to go the the family page for F1613, and using raw GEDCOM edit add “2 PEDI adopted” directly under the “1 CHIL @Q3926@” record.

      Nigel
      My personal kiwitrees site is www.our-families.info
      #4944

      jacoline
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      When the family is made and the child added it is as you say Nigel. It is easy when you add the indis but not when we have to edit ! Normally I would remove the child from the family and add the child again but as adopted! In this way I do not have to edit gedcom

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